Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Would you just love to meet someone who has been living her life by the quintessential direction, voice, inner music, and radiantly conducting numinosity of her true self, of her authentic voice? Well then, today you are going to get that wish. With me here is PETA Jean Kelly. In addition to being the guiding voice for those who are wisely attuned enough to follow her on social media, PETA is also the devoted mother of three authentically raised children and wife to her husband, whom I read somewhere she called the biggest heart ever on legs. What a sweetie.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: PETA's background is in exercise and health, where she has been scientifically published. Her honors thesis was in bioenergetics and metabolism.
PETA is the author of four books and is especially passionate about living vitally as mothers to maximally enjoy those sacred, fleeting, golden years. Peter's philosophy, called body luxury, is that pinpoint where vitality, God and beauty merge. As she expresses it, it's for all those who have been wellness girlies for so long and want to mature into a more relaxed, less obsessive approach, which still holds high standards for food and for life.
PETA is also a longtime cleanser. You'll clearly see she is both the out picturing as well as the inner picturing of the fruits of this work we do with her distinct uniqueness as this, well, oracle, it's the best way I can think to call it. PETA has weaved a golden life for herself and her family.
PETA is a one of a kind, in no uncertain terms. When you experience the ring of truth in her aura, you really feel what true authenticity actually means and what it can mean for you.
By embodying her pure, poetically nuanced truth for us, PETA gives us all a sample of how we can bring our own magic through and how this metamorphosis can take place in each of us. PETA is an orbit all her own, a kind of fairy solar system. But she's also very much integrated in the world, grounded here on Earth, moving through life with devotion and presence. For her human family.
I see PETA in a way as anchoring a rare level of consciousness here on Earth. It's as if the frequency she embodies and emits is an essential ingredient for the restoration of humankind. She does it with a playful, knowing wink and smile, never taking herself seriously and always calling out for others. The pitfalls that she so expertly evades. And her distinct and fabulous sense of personal style must also be noted.
PETA is a great friend to Womankind by her example. Her lead is one you can really trust. And I do not pass out such endorsements lightly.
While we have not had the pleasure of diving deeply together in conversation before now, I have been admiring PETA's magic for a long time and feel very appreciative to now have this time with her. Peter, thank you so much for taking the time away from your family this morning. Australian. Time to share your magic with us. Welcome.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Oh, Natalia, that was the nicest introduction I've ever had. Thank you. I feel so many of those things about you, too. Honestly, just, I feel so grateful to be here because I've been following your work and doing your courses for a long time.
[00:03:32] Speaker A: Wow. Well, it's meant to be that we have this exchange, alas.
Thank you. So I think, you know, there's so much I want to get into, but mostly at the heart, at the root of it. The root of you, the core of you.
It seems to me that it's. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's. It's the. It has been the pursuit of authenticity, and it's brought about your authenticity. And it's rare to see that embodied, frankly, in, you know, in women. So especially women who are running successful families and businesses and also living a life that is, you know, filled with beauty, a deliberate pursuit of. Of. Of great living. So I suppose, to begin with, would you like to speak about your philosophy and what drives you and. And what brought you here?
[00:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's been so evolving over the years, you know what I mean? And it's.
It's so like, I really stopped me in my tracks hearing everything you said in the introduction because it was such beautiful words. And I think.
I mean, I always see myself kind of as a lot more clumsy than that, you know, like just so figuring it out and just doing my best, you know what I mean? And still with such, I suppose, innocence and knowing my place in that I don't.
So much is always going to be a mystery and we're never going to know it all, and we're all just. We're all just really doing our best. And I'm also really aware of my own pitfalls, you know, my own blind spots and.
Well, I mean, at least as many as I can now. I'm sure there's going to be more pop up, but I think it's been such an evolving thing. So. You mean body luxury? You want me to talk about that from your.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: Your core philosophy? I know that is a philosophy that You've developed. But even, like, whatever is the most closely rooted in you, in your spirit.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, I mean, authenticity is honesty. I mean, I was raised by. My mum was a. Is she. But when we were younger, a single mom of four children, and we lived in, you know, she didn't have any money. It's a very similar story to many people story. And yet she was the most caring.
You know, she'd really been through it. She'd had a really rough go, you know, really rough start to life, and she'd really been through it. She's the most generous, but honest and authentic person. You know what I mean? She's. He had a shaved head our whole life, and she's tattooed and she had a shaved head our whole life. And everyone said, what? Why does your mom have a shaved head? You know, is she sick? Is. And we say, no, she's not sick. She's got a shaved head. Because we have a really small house and there's four of us kids, and there's not enough time for her to do her hair. So she shaved her hair so that she wouldn't have to use the bathroom in the mornings, and that was it. And she rocked it and she didn't care, and she'd always have it. Sometimes she'd even go down to a number one. When, you know, they were doing the shaves for cancer at her school that she taught at, she would do the number one. And she was kind of like that badass where if anything happened at school, at the high school that she taught at, like, like a kid would come to school with a machete, daddy's pants or something, she would be the one to go to the front of the school. And, you know, she just. She just so, like the biggest heart, but just so unafraid. And I think a lot of my siblings and I, we have to credit a lot of our innate authenticity to her, really. And I think it's. It's kind of embedded in the Australian spirit, you know? Like, I've spent a lot of time in the U.S. my husband's American. I've spent a lot of time in Europe. And there's something about Australia where, yeah, there is no real bs, you know what I mean? You kind of just gotta say it. So whenever I've been in the US a lot of people say, wow, how can you just be so honest? And I'm like, you don't really have a choice where. Where I'm from, you just. You just are. And so I don't want to take Credit for those, those attributes so much. But you know, I think in general in terms of my whole life, I just, you know, I've had, I've had changes in faith over the years where I've really returned home to, to God as the father. And that has been the biggest breath out for me, to be honest, as a hyper independent eldest daughter, you know, hyper independent woman to be able to rest into that real godly fatherly love. And I think I've always, I've always had that. It's always been my thing, I think, to, you know, back in the day and when I was building my first business, what I used to say to people every day I would be like, what excites you? And I was like a 23 year old, so young and naive. But I just knew that some of us need to just be shaken to, you know, how short life is and how beautiful it can be and how much, you know, I know how much is not in our control. We're obviously, you know, God is sovereign, but we're participants and we have free will and there's so much that we get to choose. And you know, I saw that firsthand for myself going from living in, you know, growing up, Mum would, you know, we didn't have any money and I still saw her go and donate to the Salvation army every Christmas even though that, you know, we were, she had, she was scraping, you know, every, every fortnight, you know, she'd get her teacher's wage and I saw her be, be that generous and, and I always had this real resolve that I was going to do things differently and I was going to help my mom and I was going to live without those stresses because I saw that Mum had so much to give and she gave to her community so generously. But, but there was so much stress on her, you know, there was just so much stress and I wanted to, I wanted to live beyond that, beyond that basic financial stress. But I just, yeah, I, there's so much to it. We get so deep like. And my mum hates when I talk about this, but I really absorbed a lot of my mum's stress. I really absorbed a lot of it as the eldest daughter and I really, you know, took, took a lot of it on and she, she hates to think that, but it's kind of a daughter thing, you know, and I was really, really affected when I felt that my mum wasn't happy, which, you know, she's, she was. But you know, as a kid you're like, oh, what can I do? And I Suppose I've got this real resolve that despite the things that I've, the things that I've had to face myself, like functional anxiety that I live with for so long, you know, from, you know, childhood things, you know, to experience real joy and to have my kids see me experience real joy and to live just really vitally and fully and honestly and with the life force just like right open and free. And it's just like this standard that I've held for a long time that, you know, God put us all here for a reason. God's gifted us, you know, the, just the miracle of, you know, once you get into the human body, like the miracle of life, it's just, it's, it can't even, it's mind blowing just how our body works and how loved we are just to even have a body that knows how to urinate without us even thinking about it and the divinity that takes over our baby in the womb and then grows, you know, it's just, I'm going so off topic here, but, you know, right on top.
It's just.
Yeah, I've just, I suppose I've just always had this hunger for, for better and for truer and for freer and I've had to dig through that in myself. Through. Yeah, like I said, living with, with chronic anxiety that at many times was quite crippling. And to live well through that and to tend to that and to, you know, just the. All the personal things God gives us to, to overcome and to be with, to discover more and more truth and freedom. It's just, it's just such an unraveling, such a constant unraveling. And then health has always been my big focus. Back when I was young, we did all the sports and I knew I was going to go into university and do that because we were so athletic as a family. Mom had us in every sport you could possibly do and, and I would always get so upset when I see the overweight kids. Even as a child, I was just always so passionate about health and, and I think, you know, as you know, anyone in the health space, you realize how linked our, our physical and our vitality, as you say is to absolutely everything. It's such a godly path, it's such a spiritual path to, to tend to the body and to tend to the psycho physical everything. And so I have a particular love of, I won't say finding God through the body because it's not that, but about honoring God through the body and tending to our vital force, our life force. So that we can live the most honest, true life that we are here to live, still knowing that, you know, it's not going to be this straight path of, well, I'm online, I'm aligned, I'm on purpose, I've got it. I've just got to walk this path forever and I'm done. But just that, just the constant pursuit of that beautiful, vital and honest life.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: So exquisitely articulated, honoring God in the body. I love the way you put that.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: So in that you move through life with this kind of conversation, this, this voice within you that your oracle, and you're in contact with it, and you're, you're, you have your, you know, your way of communicating with yourself in your internal world. And I think something that I believe could really help our listeners is to get a sense of what that communication sounds like. Because I think if they had a sense of it, they might be able to apply some of that to help them lift themselves up and out of some of the maybe dysfunctional or less functional communication they're probably dealing with in their own minds. Any. Any thoughts?
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Well, I think, yeah, I do. I feel like sometimes, because it's so easy to say, just listen to your intuition. And that's like my first instinct is to say, you know, like, trust your intuition is to say that. But I also believe that sometimes when we are so burdened, and you are the master at this, but you're so burdened physically, which it. Sometimes you can't hear. And so sometimes it's like I just want to say, you know, and sometimes I will be, in my Australian way, so cutthroat. It's like, you know, you know, you know, you feel it and, you know. But then other times, I honestly do feel like people are so looping in their patterns, they might be so burdened in their physical systems, they might be.
So, like, this is why I'm so fascinated in homeopathy now, to tend to, like, the assault on the vital force and just to free the vital force in ways that we can't think ourselves to. You know, some people have had so many assaults on their vital force and inherited by parents, things that they didn't even do, you know, they would sometimes just born with these assaults in the vital force that have these loops, mental patterns or, you know, just they're stuck. And so, you know, I think in my naivety when I was younger, I would have said, well, you always have an intuition. Listen to it. But I think I, I now understand that sometimes we can't hear and for instance, I'm on a homeopathic protocol right now because I'm studying, I'm studying homeopathy now. But to really like help me address the, the over responsibility and the stuff that no other thing has ever been able to help me do. And I've done it all. I mean, the amount of money I've spent in personal development is astronomical. And there's some things which are just, you know, and so I suppose that's the message mostly to be kind to yourself if you feel like, wow, I can't hear as clearly as other, you know, it's not about like that you're not as connected or that you don't have the message, you don't have the connection to God. It's not that, is that some of we've all been born into this world with sometimes, like I said, this. We've all got this vital force which is the, you know, the spirit in us that illuminates and animates our life. And a lot of people's vital thought, like, you know, no matter back generations, you know, if there was things that weren't dealt with properly and we heard. And I just want to, I suppose, offer that as a bit of kindness to just, you know, that there's nothing wrong with you, you know, you're not doing anything wrong. Firstly, if there are some steps, I think everybody in your group is cleansing already and using the enlightener. You know, everybody knows that sometimes you're doing enlightenment session and you're like, I know what to do now. Or you go for a walk and, you know, things move around and we like I did a post recently and it was like, you know, what comes first? The vibrant body or the vibrant life? And it was because it's. Yeah, I do believe that sometimes people are like on the floor in their bathroom hands, you know, praying to God, God, I just don't know what to do. And you might get that sharp knowing, you know, because you're desperate and you're weak and you're, you're not holding on to your need to control anymore. You're not trying to, you know, I want the intuition, but I also want to hold on to this and hold on to this. And I don't want to live there and I don't want to do that. So I want the answers, but I also want it to fit into my idea. Sometimes we only hear when we are at that point where we're like on our knees. And I've had those moments too. And that's where I have developed a relationship with God because I've not trying to play God anymore, you know, so been. Sometimes we need to have those points. Sometimes we need to take a more, you know, sometimes it's in earnest prayer, consistent earnest prayer, where we're not trying to play God, but we're actually in correct, ordered relationship with God.
Sometimes you need, you know, a really good cleanse or another. Sometimes you need a change of environment so that you can, you know, move some energy in here. Sometimes you need a homeopathy or something like that that you're not even thinking of so that you can, you know, address some of the things that therapy and other things just can't address, you know, that will, will change the psyche. And you say, oh, oh my gosh, now I, I've just lessened the burden and I can hear. So I think there's.
Yeah, like I said, I would love to just say, you know the answer. Listen to your intuition. It's that easy. And sometimes it is. But I also know that sometimes that answer can be so frustrating for people who are like, I'm just not hearing and it's different. You know, like, there's the, there's the everyday intuition of like, should I eat this? I know I shouldn't really eat this and you know, I know I shouldn't eat it, but in my head it sounds like a good idea and there's like those acute sort of things. But when it comes to the more chronic feeling out of touch with it, I think it, we need the prayer. We might need, you know, some more loving care on our vital force.
And of course I don't want to have to say cleansing of things because I know that your audience is already all over that and all about it.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: No, that's very helpful though. It's good for everyone to, you know, be reminded of things too, that, you know, that that is a significant part of the reason and the way you operate, the way you move through life, you take that into consideration. You measure your, your, your system based on interference that could be in the physical as well as other layers and aspects. So that's in terms of hearing the intuition and what about your self talk in terms of like the, the voice that, like the way you speak to yourself. Just kind of going through your day, going from the kids to all the different things you're going to do in a day.
What I, what I found is that it's surprisingly.
Most people have a surprisingly lot so express it of thought patterns that keep circulating on a loop that are really not helping them. And what are. Where, like where are you in your mind space? Where do you go? What is your voice?
[00:20:45] Speaker B: You know what? I think I am one of those people who has those looping thought patterns. And I think many of us are. And I think so I'd be lying to say that I'm a Zen master. You know, I have a very active mind.
You know, I suggest just to be really honest, but I think I feel my mind is more naturally ordered when I do the basic things as well when I am.
So if I catch myself to say, say my mind is, you know, I want to say spiraling but focusing more on unproductive thoughts and then I will end up scrolling too much and then I'll end up in this overly consumptive pattern which then my energy down and makes me less patient with the kids. And just that I then notice what happens when I am creating, when I will instead take that time and write and say something and even if I'm not going to post it and notice what that creativity does to my, my mind. It's just, it's amazing. So I think first we've got to notice as well the things that we are doing, the habits that are contributing to our, you know, what are we doing in our life that's allowing us to stay in those, those thoughts. But for me, sometimes I will notice it and I will try and tell myself firstly, like I'll catch myself because it's amazing how familiar the thoughts are and how much we believe that they are actual truth, you know, and it's. And I think we don't even realize how entwined well with the thoughts where we, they're happening all the time where whatever it is, these, this self talk about our bodies or anything at all and all the time for women it is quite mean, you know, and to stop and pause and to actually notice. And this sounds so basic like 101 self help, you know, but it's to stop and where's the lie? And we'll notice that so much of it is so familiar, but it's, it's lies. And sometimes it's just as simple as saying, you know, where's the. Where's the lie and what's the truth? And some of us are just running the lies on, on loop because there's no space for truth in our day. We're going from. You know, even sometimes people's spiritual practice can become too heady. You know, it's like I want, I want to journal and I want to achieve that and I Want to, then I want to read and I want to do this. And sometimes even our spiritual practices can become so mental and it's still, we're still looping those same things of, you know, sometimes it's, you know, for many people's mental self talk, it's about, you know, perfection and you didn't do this, you didn't do this. And it's just, we're just constantly beating down on ourselves. So sometimes we just have to step out and say, where's the lie? And sometimes I say to myself, you know what I, the basic things would I want to talk to my, my daughter, you know, I've got two daughters and a son. But specifically because I'm a female, it helps me think. Would I like my daughter to be talking to herself this way? You know, and to just ask ourselves productive questions, to just be able to step back and just notice the lie. I think that's just one of the most important things is to notice the lie. And I think there's a book, I've seen the title of it, I don't know, it's called Tell yourself a better Lie. I think I haven't read it. I think I might have, I think I might have it in my library was at least 30% of the books I haven't read yet.
And I just, that just the title, Tell yourself a better lie. You know, if you have to just start there. You know what I mean? It's.
Yeah, I think it's, I think our mental pat. Our mental action can become more, you know, it's all a loop, right? Can become more and say destructive. But yeah, when we're, when we're not focusing on the right things in our life too, like we're not using our mental energy in the right direction, we're not using it on creativity and help, serving others and loving others and speaking life, giving words into others, then it's just as open for other stuff to come and take over and start, you know, looping. And so I think we, yeah, it's as well as we know when our body is not in the, in the right place, it can totally influence our mental direction. So sometimes we just need to stand up and shake it off. Sometimes we need to just work out. Sometimes we need to just go for a walk. Sometimes we need to just write instead of scroll. Sometimes we need to ask ourselves, where's this? Where's the lie?
Yeah, I think as a complete non expert in that area, that's my answer.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: Well, you're embodying it so you're the expert by, by definition, because you embody it. I think one of the things, well, from what I picked up from you, that you do really well, I'd say actually the two things that go side by side, which is what you're touching on here, is you're great at identifying the interference, the, the lie, the, the cultural conditioning and creating, crafting beautiful thoughts, words, poetry, express, expressing, and that combination. I think if people really sat with that and realized how powerful it is to do both, to be able to identify the error, the lies, the conditioning, all these things, and then also to be able to just express.
Because that's where, like your unique thread, your unique expression, your unique song, specifically, I'm talking about you once as well, but yours is so rarefied, so unique, so special. When I read what you write, it's not only like flowers on a page, like in terms of really having a fragrance and really being transportative, but it's also illuminates truths. It, like, it clears the air. It's like a. It's. Not to sound trite, but it really is a breath of fresh air. It's like a whole nother. Like, okay, everybody, did you see, did you see that this is all lies. I'm not gonna, I'm show you in a really beautiful way what's real. That's, that's how I feel when I read what you write. And to, to just get back to what you were saying the very beginning. It's the honesty, because there's nothing clever about. It's. It's divine. It's the, it's, it's so, it's so beyond. It transcends cleverness. You know, you're not trying to be clever, you're just being honest. That honesty and authenticity, it's like, wow, this is so fragrant. This is so floral. This is so abundant, so vivacious. It's so vital. And, and that's, it's. And you get it. Like, you get your. One can pick up your essence so distinctly just by reading what you write, because that's where you are. You're in that honesty. And that's also what makes. Also refreshing and why those who know of you follow you and love you because they are guaranteed to always get that waft of freshness, knowing that, like, they can turn there for that and it's not going to sound like anything else out there.
[00:28:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you. I. I'm glad, I'm so glad that that is how it's received, truly. Because, you know, sometimes on social media, I wonder, should I just get off? I do. I, you know what I mean? Like you have those moments too. Because I'd be lying, I would say that weren't challenging sometimes to be online, you know, and with three little kids. But it's that, that, it's that that keeps me writing. It's not only that I love writing and sharing, but on, on say Instagram, I mean I love writing, sharing on long form, but say on Instagram, it's that, it's that you can put these micro doses of relief into people's day. And you know, just like sometimes I just sense it in my community of people online. I can sense the lies that they're believing. I can sense where they are feeling like they have to be doing something in a way that is completely life taking and it's not life giving. And, and I also sometimes just tell about when I'm discovering in myself. You know, like it's, well, this is where I found freedom this week. This is where I found liberation this week. This is what's life giving for me to think about this week. And I just pass it on. And yeah, it's, I think the honesty is, is so big and it just starts with telling the truth to ourselves and feeling like it's okay to do that. And I think once you get a taste of that, once you get a taste of just telling the truth to yourself and even if you, even if women wanted to start just doing it in their journal where they're not going to even tell any single other soul, you know, just telling the truth to yourself in, in its totality, just the complete truth with nothing left out even, you got to get the stuff out. Even if it made me look like a bad person, what would be the thing that I just need to get out? And sometimes you just need to get it out. Not, I'm not saying go post online things that are, you know, but just tell the truth to yourself what's in there because sometimes it's just a, it's just, you know, once you get some stuff out, you get to the stuff underneath. Do you know what I mean? Once you get the things that the, oh, I didn't like how this person treated me or you know, well, this, that's not okay. And actually I don't agree with that. And you just say it. And I think one of the big things is for us with this online world is sometimes we, because people have been following us online, we have this idea that we are this certain person and sometimes if we have thoughts or Ideas that contradict that, we'll feel bad. And that's the next bit of freedom. It's like, tell the truth. Even if it's a little bit contradictory to last year, it's okay to tell that truth. It doesn't, you know, you just, at least to yourself and people will be surprised.
You know, what is hiding underneath there? You know, sometimes it's just, it's just getting in the habit of. Yeah, just, yeah, just. Just getting in that habit. And even if it's just in private to start with, you'd be surprised that how much more honest your public work will be.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: That's a wonderful point. So one of the things too, I love about the way you operate is you don't try to look like, or dress like or in any way. You know, you're. You like anybody else. You are so unapologetically yourself. Not that you would ever have anything to apologize for. You're radiantly beautiful and just exquisite. But it's, it's. It also, I think that's had a massive impact on, I'll say the women, obviously, the men too, follow you. But this sense of like, being given permission, sometimes people actually need to have that permission. And just in your embodiment, you grant that permission because it's like there's the, the beauty that comes from just actually being who we are and not trying to, you know, look like somebody else. And then in that, you also see the self. Love in the person because, you know, they're not trying to have themselves validated, they're already self validated. And that's something that really shines through in you. And I wonder if you have any words for those who, who really don't have their own sense of that they have been. They spent their lives looking to others to give them maybe the mirror that they should be reflecting to as opposed to truly being themselves and knowing that they're beautiful, more beautiful when they're really being themselves.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: I think, as women need to, I think we need to firstly stop and remember how we view others and what makes others beautiful. Like for me, I find this, I find others so beautiful when they are, you know, not just, you know, this conventional idea of, you know, especially in areas like where I once lived in Scottsdale, you know, there's like, there's like a look, right? I definitely didn't fit that look in Scottsdale.
And you know, for me, when I, I think, yeah, we've got to go back to what, what do I find beautiful in other people? And so we can spin that Back on ourselves. We, we find beauty in other people when they're, they've got that little bit of carefreeness with, when people take care of themselves. I think that's also beauty. It's taking care of yourself, but it's, it's got that carefree, honest, you know, like we, we got to recognize that we find that beautiful in others and so that we can allow that to be part of the beauty that we express. Do you know what I mean? We've almost got to tell ourselves, look, I find that beautiful, beautiful in others. Why wouldn't I allow that to find, why would I allow myself to find it beautiful about myself?
And I think, I mean, I think sometimes you got to cut, cut to it as well to the, to the sore point of like firstly, if we have kids, are my kids going to have that self security if I do not have it? And they are going to notice when I am anxiously peeking at myself in the mirror. And so sometimes it can be a long healing process and sometimes it has to just be telling ourselves that that is enough. Sometimes I believe healing can be sharp like that. Enough, enough. You know what I mean? Like, I am not going to do this anymore because my, then my daughter will. And how heartbreaking would it be for me if I didn't stop this now? And I saw my daughter when she was 15, 16, because all of our generation, I know I definitely went through gnarly disordered eating when I was young, you know, as an athlete and, and I would hate that for my daughter and my other daughter and my son too, but specifically for my daughters. And so sometimes healing needs to be sharp. It needs to be enough. I've had enough not doing it anymore. I'm not going to like pick at myself constantly. And even if, even if I got to tell myself a better life for a little bit, you know, in the mirror, like this is, you know, how do I want to feel beautiful today? How do I want to express myself today? And you know, what is naturally expressive for me? What's my style? And take away conventional beauty. Like, what's my style? What, what am I about? You know, what am I about? What, what styles make me feel expressed and beautiful? What styles for me are fun to dress in? You know, like, what's my, what's my style? And to just have fun there, Take away the, like other people don't care if you've got wrinkles. Other people couldn't care less, you know, I mean, I'm all for taking care of yourself naturally. I'm not for personally and I do not judge anyone who is, I'm not for Botox and things like that personally. But have at it, whatever it is, for each person, you know, to be. But we've got to remember that really what we're finding beauty in other people is not that they can't move their forehead. That's not what we look at someone and we're saying, oh my gosh, that person is stunning. They can't move their forehead. We're thinking that we can see their, their spirit and their vital. We can feel them and we can see them. And you know, it's through where the clothes you're wearing or the fact that you, you know, you put your hair in a messy bun and then you know, you've got those funky earrings or whatever it is, it's that that makes others and it's that that's fun too because we all know that as mums especially, I've had those times where I've gone days and weeks and months dressing very slouchly. And that's affected how I think it's affected if I want to create, it's affected my energy levels. And so I think allowing yourself to have fun and to remember that the expression the beauty is, is all about the spirit is, you know, you can have the most conventionally beautiful face and you could be a mannequin, you know what I mean? And that no one's gonna find that stunning godly spirit in that. So I think it's. We've got to just recognize where we, what we feel beauty is and allow ourselves to just to reclaim that for ourselves, like I said. And not, not in a self indulgent way, but in like a God made me. God put me on this earth and gave me this unique features and this spirit that no one else has like mine. And I want to, you know, express that. And if not for the immediate people around me, for God, for others, for. Because that's, you know, that's where life come from. That's what is life giving. And I think that's, I think that's what basically sums up my whole message is to do what's life giving. And we always know what's life giving. You know, it's whether it's a food choice, whether it's scroll or create what, you know, just to do the life giving thing. And I will add, sometimes that is a scroll, sometimes it's a good scroll. Especially as a mum, sometimes I need husband, take the kids, I'm gonna lock myself in the room. I need to do some dumb stuff for 15 minutes sometimes. That is life giving.
That.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Yeah. The aliveness factor, the aliveness quotient. And the other thing is, I'm reminded of as you talk about this is that you allow yourself to be seen. You're not afraid to be seen. And that comes across so clearly. It's. And that's part of the self love that just, you know, beams right off of all of your posts and things is a sense of I'm not afraid to be seen like and, and that's, that's a confidence that comes from the connection to the divine and to honesty and all those things. Also when you're looking for, when you're besotted by aliveness and you're not sort of captivated by artificiality, it's a whole different way of seeing. So once you come into your own authenticity, you start to see authentically. You're not just being authentically, you're actually seeing authentically. So you are celebrating. You're more apt to be enchanted by the real in a person's face and the person's movements and the person. As opposed to being so conditioned and programmed that, you know, you, you can't see certain people, you only see other. It's this, whatever you were talking about, Beck and Scott, still something those, that kind of, you know, that cookie cutter mold that some people only see. Those people they can't even see they have their lens is, is such. But, but that's for their own evolution their, their process through the, the, you know, through this lifetime.
But it's a, it's a very special thing when you realize that you've tapped into your own authenticity and you're able to celebrate and really appreciate that uniqueness in others that's, you know, without the signature of modern beauty. And with that, if we can just jump. How are we doing that? We can think maybe just one more category to hit on. I know that everyone would love to hear about your self care routine from all angles.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, so my youngest is turning one on Friday, so I've got little kids at home, seven.
My son's about to turn five and one. And we've kind of been all over the world and traveling a lot this last couple years. We've been in, in Australia, but so I think when I was in the, in the enlightener WhatsApp group, someone was asking about doing enlighteners with their kids and all of that and, and I had the opportunity to just write what I do in that regard to her. But Just it's not doable when you've got three little kids at home to have the extremely extravagant self care routine. It's just, it's not the season. That season will come again but it's not the season now. So I try and do I have like my non negotiables and, and I put them in there because I know that they are life giving not just for me but for the whole family. And so I exercise most days and that's something that I have done for as long as I can remember in my life. And it's a non negotiable for me not only to move energy, not only for my physical well being, for my mind, for my conditioning to become stronger and more resilient as a woman who you know, got children to look after and for longevity. I think that training the body is so that's one of my non negotiables. And you know I'm a qualified pilates instructor. I don't teach. I kind of just did it for, did it for, for fun and for curiosity. But sometimes we'll do pilates. But I'm really love to do, you know, strength training. I love to walk. I've got my rebounder behind me so I will intuitively kind of mix and match all of those things together.
I'll use the enlightener not as often as I once did but I will use it say right now, once every two weeks. I'd say. Whereas there's been periods in my life where I'd use it once a day. There's been periods in my life where I use it three times a week. So I kind of just do it.
I use that as my tool, you know, my at home tool. And I love it. I've taken it to Italy, I've had the attachments put on in Italy. I've had the attachment put on my houses here. Um, so I use that because with little kids too it's, I find it so much easier than I know I know that it complements colonics and everything but when you get good enlightenment session sometimes I feel like you don't need a lot. I mean I, I, I love it anyway eating well. You know I think that's so, it's, that's one of the things that we're doing anyway. It's not take, you know, we're doing it anyway. We're eating anyway to eat well. And we have high food standards in our house. Organic, we organic produce. We've had little things that we had water filters, whole house water Filters on every house that's non negotiable for me is to have those water filters on the house so that even when the things that you're not even you know, I'm going to be showering, I may as well be showering in water that's not polluted, you know. So that's non negotiable for us. I have a sauna. I again I'm in the season where I'm breastfeeding. So I mean I'm just in one of those seasons where I will do it maybe again like similar to my enlightener once a fortnight right now because I'm just mindful not to dump into my breast milk again. Everyone has different opinions about that but I know that there's a season for everything. So yeah, for me, writing, writing, moving, praying.
I catch up with my girlfriends all around the world on very long audio messages. That's an important part of my self care because I have friends all over. So it's just we have long audiobook messages to each other and I have friends locally. It's so important to see too. But I have dear friends all over. So it's that reading. I love to read classic literature, love to read the Bible. I love to read any health books that I can, which sometimes I have to park because I get so obsessed with all these different things in all these different ways. And so.
So I think yeah, the setting the standard for. I think one of the most important things is setting the standard so that your standard is what it is and you can relax. You know what I mean? So you don't feel like every day is such. Has to be such an obsession and such an effort is set the standard for your life. The quality of your food, the quality of your water at home, the habits that are just in there and they don't come out obviously unless there's something very pressing. But they're in there and they don't come out which is working out, you know, those, those things. I don't have a big like journaling practice or anything really crazy like that because I'm in the season with kids. So I have my non negotiables in there. They are solid for me.
The writing, the moving, the, the high standards, the prayer and then doing. Yeah. So I can be free to be with my kids when I'm with my kids without thinking, oh I need to do this, I need to do that, I need to do this. And I think that's one of the things as you know, as a mom, if you're not doing the basic things. You know, you can lie to yourself about it and say it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, but essentially it will come out in your own patients or anything like that. So, you know, my kids schedules come first, but I always put in my stuff around them and make sure that they are in there. And my husband and I work together to make sure that we, yeah, we, we, we know that the happy household is run on alive parents.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Vital parents now. That's wonderful. And it really puts into perspective standard of living, doesn't it? The future of standard of living, which, you know, you're, you're exemplifying as well. Wow. Well, we covered so much. PETA. Is there anything that you feel would be helpful to share? Anything you want to add? I know you've, you've now have a honeycomb on substack, is that right?
[00:46:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So honeycomb is my title of my substack.
Yep. And I just write on there. It's just all free right now. I don't have any paid subscriptions or anything. I just write on there.
I'm trying to get back to fortnightly publishing on there now that my youngest is one. Get back into a real rhythm like that.
Yeah, so that's basically, that's basically it for me right now.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: That's.
[00:47:07] Speaker B: People could follow me on Instagram or substack.
That's about the range of my creative offerings at this point. But I'm excited to get back into some more, some. Some more diverse stuff later on. But yeah, that's where you can come and hang out.
[00:47:21] Speaker A: Wonderful. I mean, well, when the, when the, when what you're creating, offering is so concentrated and juicy, it doesn't have to be more than that already a lot. It's already, you know, like. Yeah, the concentrate.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I know sometimes I get conscious of like, you know, people follow when they read and then they want something more. And I just, you know, because everyone online kind of has something more and I just haven't for quite a while. And I'm, I'm at peace with that because it's my season. And I think you're right in that you can give people so much in such a short thing and, you know, you got to make everything work for the whole picture of your life. So, yeah, it's social media. Such a gift. I mean, it's definitely got its, its, you know, sore points, but it's such a gift in how quickly we can connect and share, you know, with people all over the world. It's amazing.
[00:48:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the right perspective on it. Very healthy perspective. Wow, Peter, thank you so much for spending time with us today and you must have the most wonderful day from here on out. You've got a, it's still early morning. It's like 9am there now.
[00:48:33] Speaker B: Yep. I'm about to do my workout now. My kids are probably going to come back inside soon. But I'm so grateful, Natalia. You've been such a light for me over the years and I've, you know, done so many of your courses and read your books and I'm just so grateful for your wisdom and how sturdy you stay in your philosophies and just really, really grateful and honored that you had me on today.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: Thank you or sister spirits. And until next time, we'll do this again, all right? All right. Huge love, Peter. Thank you. Thank you.
Bye.
