Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hi, everyone.
Today we have Tundi Rose, my daughter.
And we understand that there's been a lot of curiosity around how she was raised, what she ate, how she felt about it, how it affected her, how it impacted her, and just to get her perspective on it for a moment, because she's here and she can tell us from the horse's mouth.
Yeah. So welcome, Tandy. Thank you for doing this. It was very sweet of you. And I know you've actually had a lot to say about it for many years, and we haven't just had this moment to sit down and talk about it.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. There's been, like, a lot that people have also wondered about for a long time, but I feel like now the questions can be answered.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: All right, well, where should we start? Should we go back in history to 2000?
[00:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah. When I was just born?
[00:00:50] Speaker A: Exactly.
Yeah. And I mean, I suppose, you know, from. From the time you were born, you were fed almost exclusively raw diet and obviously breastfed, and you had some goat's milk in your diet as well.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: That was a treat.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: And, you know, and lots of baby shakes and.
And these sort of blends that merged a whole category of foods that we made sure you were getting all your nutrients and needs, methods, and you seem to enjoy those. Do you remember being a baby drinking your baby shakes?
[00:01:28] Speaker B: I don't remember drinking my baby shakes.
I do remember, like, all the other food you were making. I don't know. I wasn't old enough, I guess, to remember, but I don't remember the baby shakes.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: I remember you talking about that.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: What were in the baby shakes?
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Carrot juice and avocados and all sorts of wonderful things.
But it was a long, long time ago. But. Okay, so one of the big curiosity points people have is, did you feel deprived? Did you feel like you couldn't have things other people were having? And how did that make you feel?
[00:02:01] Speaker B: I never felt like I was deprived. Like, I definitely. I didn't even notice a difference in, like, what I was eating compared to other kids up and, like, only when it was brought up by other people. So I realized otherwise. I was just very happy with what you gave me. It was all super tasty food, and I really miss it now, being older in a different country and not able to have it. But no, I never really felt deprived because also, I think you gave me a good. Like, you never deprived me of, you know, trying something sweet or savory. There was always a healthier alternative to, like, the normal food.
So it felt the same in my.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Child brain yeah, that's so interesting that you. It was the adults who pointed things out to you. I'd love you to expand on that because I think that's really good to.
For people to understand. Like, the children never seem to have an issue with it. No. They don't teach you?
[00:02:57] Speaker B: No, no. Actually, I remember like at public school at K69, I went to KS69 for like until fourth grade. And you would either have packed lunches or school lunch, and I would come with my packed healthy lunch of like, I don't know what you would give me, like, bold jam, cookies, apples, whatever it was.
And I remember I would actually trade with the kids at school because they would want what I had and I would want what they had, but they would like. And I was like, yeah, you can have my box. I get this all the time.
But yeah, so the other kids loved it.
And also I remember my friends coming home, like, if they came home with me after school and they would all want the healthy food. They would like, I feel like, raid your kitchen and want you to make stuff for them.
So for me it was like, mundane and every day. But other kids loved it for sure.
I feel like the comments came more from other parents in that sense where it was like other parents were. I definitely felt like, more judgmental and like, would try to like, you know, insinuate that maybe I was deprived of something.
Like, oh, like, don't you really want an Oreo? And I'd be like, okay, like, I would like to try an Oreo. I would like to eat an Oreo. But like, it's not like, I'm not like frothing at the mouth for an Oreo. Like, oh, my God, this is gold. I have like, I've never seen in my life.
Yeah. So I guess that's more what it was. It's like, definitely the kids were very interested and, you know, they were deprived at home of having what I was having, you know, Gosh.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: And in terms of feeling healthy and strong and just in terms of your, I know, your like, robustness as a child, how do you remember your health?
[00:04:47] Speaker B: I was always healthy, I think. I don't think I ever. I don't remember getting sick at all. Like, I, I would. Yeah, I remember being sick. I was, I was really healthy and strong. Like, I would.
Did pre professional ballet up until the end of high school.
And yeah, I was also always healthy. Act like it's really.
Yeah. Never been a problem with that because I always got protein. I always had, you know, I never had Any deficiencies or anything of a problem.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: So yeah, yeah, you've always been very energetic and.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Yeah, always very energetic.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Athletic in your way. Like your ballet. Yeah, yeah's a really beautiful ballerina.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: Well, I was not. Not really anymore. Still. Yeah.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: So I guess flash forward to 2024 and you are turning 24 in a couple of months.
[00:05:42] Speaker B: I'm still 23.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: You're still 23.
I'm just thinking that I always know by the year your age.
But flash forward to this world that we're in now and your peer group. You've grown up with, obviously this generation, and you're all being exposed to an unprecedented amount of, of bombardment around image and cosmetic corrective procedures, all these things. Do you want to speak about that a little bit? How that, do you think it's impacted your generation and how you perceive it?
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Like how I think you mean like eating habit wise eating habit is also.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: Like the cosmetic procedures and things. It just seems like. Well, from an image perspective, it's like the amplitude has been turned way up.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: I think yes. In terms of like body image and beauty standards, like because of obviously social media and beauty enhancements being way more accessible, I think, and also accessible to everyone. And also like, you know, celebrities, like wealthier people seem to have more work done or have access to like more of these high tech beauty treatments or enhancements, whatever it is. And I think it definitely creates the sense of girls and I guess guys also in my generation looking at these people and wanting that and seeing that as something to aspire to. And I think it's the same in every generation, but I think it's become very unhealthy where everyone's expected to look a certain way and maybe now the pendulum is swinging the other way where unique beauty is being valued more. I think that's what's happening. But I, I think in terms of like enhancing, like altering, you know, getting plastic surgery or whatever, it's very personal. And like as long as you're doing it for yourself and you know, it's. You're not doing it because of societal pressures or anyone else that's pressuring you and like it's something that will genuinely make you feel more confident and happy in life, then that's a good thing. And you like, you know, if you're not harming yourself mentally or physically or. And if you're not doing it for someone else, then I think it's something that like, you know, it's a personal.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Choice and do you feel empowered given what you know about self Care to be able to maintain your vitality and youthfulness without having to look at those things too too much like as if they're living in your future.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: I think that like what will all the knowledge that I have that you've like given me throughout my whole life has been invaluable. Like that is something I've been, I feel so, so lucky to have like all that knowledge.
And I, I know, you know, obviously I go through ups and downs like my health, but I always have that knowledge and I think it will carry with me obviously throughout my entire life and develop throughout my entire life.
So I'll always be able to get back into, you know, shape hopefully and hopefully forever change my, you know, diet and lifestyle to being more clean, like fully clean and healthy instead of jumping back and forth between normal eating and the way you eat. And like since I've, the whole time I've been here I've been through like a three week cleanse and I definitely feel like I've seen a transformation and I think like with myself, with you know, changing things, I think that's something that's also in the future. Like if I am really self conscious about. Like everyone has things that you know, hold them back physically like you know, or not everyone, but a lot of people do have insecurities that like not or can be crippling or just really can take a knock to yourself. Self esteem.
I think like, you know, I'm not going to say oh, I'll never do anything but I think definitely I know that there is always a way to the natural route and that's always the best route and the most sustainable long term and you'll always look and feel the best if you actually work internally and make it a lifestyle thing instead of a quick fix which is always the easier thing to do. It may be more accessible at a certain time in your life when you have a lot of chaotic things going on and you can't really give 100% to your health and well being, which is understandable. But if you can, I think it's a blessing. And then you should just take that as an opportunity to try and make yourself as healthy and clean as possible.
And you'll see the benefits forever, you know, instead of just like okay, getting like I don't know, liposuction or something, I don't know, whatever.
And that will work for like a year or two and then you'll need to get again and again and again because the pathogens are the ones that need to be fixed. And that those are still open. Right.
And so you'll still be channeling. All of. You'll still need to get the liposuction. I mean, I'm not a doctor or nutritionist, but, like, I feel like that it's just the facts of it. Instead of just working on fixing your body internally and not having to do that and being also fit and healthy and feeling good in your skin, you know, and seeing the quality of your body just improve instead of just a quick fix. But also, I've never had to.
I haven't yet come to a point in my life where I need something like that or if, you know, so it's.
It's all up to. It's all circumstantial at the end of the day, but, like, I think, you know, it's just where you are in life. But there's always. Yeah, you can always make time, hopefully for your health and wellness in some way.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Beautifully expressed.
Gosh, covered a lot there, actually.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: So.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: Okay, let's see where I want to go from here, because I think I kind of want to stay with body image for a second because one of the things that I was, you know, was said to me many times when, when you and Tommy were little was, you know, you're going. They're going to wind up swinging, going to the other end, they're going to wind up having eating disorders and all these problems because of what you're doing.
And, you know, it's not like I was trying to make my children experiment, but, you know, because like you said, there was no restriction in terms of abundance and, you know, we ate heartily. But talk about, if you're happy to talk about a little bit about your sense of body image growing up and how.
How you think maybe being fed the way you were as a child, as a young adult influenced your body image. And.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: And, yeah, yeah, I think well, through. I never really.
I was lucky as a kid. I never felt, you know, subconscious. I never even thought about body image at all until I was like, I guess 16 probably.
But, yeah, up until 16, I don't think I ever thought about it because I never had to, luckily. Like, I was just always fit.
And.
Yeah, it was just like.
I think that's. I didn't know that was probably a concern. No, yeah, it was not a concern. My, My.
The way I thought about food, I never thought about. I never thought about, like, calories ever or, you know, because. Because everything I was eating was what you were giving me. I never had to think about it, which was great. And then like, I never had issues with my body, so it kind of was all seamless. And I think then once I started becoming older and like making obviously, like, obviously you don't control my food now. And I eat whatever I want.
But also, you know, I thought my mom stopped really doing that until I was like four, I think 15.
Then I started to kind of.
Yeah. When we moved to South Africa, I started completely eating on my own terms. And I think that is kind of when obviously, like I hit puberty. So that's a like chub comes or like, I don't know. I definitely, I grew up chubby. I got a little bit chubby, but it's fine. But yeah, so obviously your body's changing, whatever. So that could. But I did start thinking about my body image. And I think when I was like 18, I definitely struggled with my body image a lot. I mean, I had life issues and school and, you know, a lot of factors playing in which affect mental health. But I definitely kind of like, think I freaked out and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't look. Obviously I didn't look the same as I did when I was 12. There's no normal, like, no one does. But I think I also realized that it was kind of like because I was eating a lot of junk because I could get away with that when I was younger. Like, you know, not junk.
Like I could get away with like eating more or whatever. It definitely was a wake up call. And I did, you know, then practice some unhealthy eating habits. But then I then it kind of leveled out after high school and after my first year, also the first year of university, obviously, I mean, that was Covid. I was locked in a room. There wasn't really many joys aside from like uber eats in Scotland. So that was, that was another thing. And then, and then I, you know, came home and, you know, I would, like, cleanse. And I noticed that when I was home, I was feeling my best. And that was because I had access to you and your knowledge and your way of life. And that is something I've actually learned a lot from, like, being away from home and coming back and being with you and taking little bits of that back with me when I'm like, I'm not with you and integrating that into my life. Like, I'll now, I now have a really, I think, good relationship with food. I struggle so with like, definitely cravings and like sugar and portioning, but I now can, like, have a huge portion of, you know, the broccoli with marinade sauce and the cheese and that's like. I can like, eat that mindlessly. More like, more mindlessly than a whole pot of spaghetti, you know, and be full and happy.
Different. And they have very different effects on the body. So.
So, yeah. So I think it's been a journey, as I think all food relationships are. And I'm still going through that journey, but I'm definitely learning a lot. And as I grow up, taking a lot of what my mom has given me and seeing its value and integrating that into my life and seeing drastic positive changes in my life. But it's just about, like, you know, those mental attachments to food are not something. It's not something you can fix overnight. It's not like a quick fix. It's like a. They have many. Like, there's many different reasons to people's habits with food, aside from just cravings or, like, it has many factors.
So I think, like, working through those mental factors, along with being mindful about what you are putting into your body is what I'm trying to do.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. You know yourself really well, you know.
[00:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:57] Speaker A: And you also, you know, Tundi just graduated from the University of Edinburgh and she's.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: So.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: She's been a university student for the last few years. And that has. It comes with a totally different lifestyle. So there's a lot of alcohol going out, a lot of going to festivals.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm still. I'm still living it up.
I'm not stopping yet. But I'm. I'm just being like, now I've been with my mom for the past three weeks and like, completely adopted her lifestyle pretty much. Not fully, but for the time being. For the time being. And I love it. Like, I just. I want to keep doing this forever. It's hard to maintain when I'm, you know, a student in Scotland, which is not a very, like, it's a cold place, you know, like, the Scottish culture is very. It's a drinking culture. I'm obviously not going to, like, deny myself. You know, I'm still young and I still want to experience cultural things and fully immerse myself in those experiences.
But I also now, like, I haven't been drinking for three weeks. I haven't been eating refined sugars. I've just been eating, like, vegetables. And I feel the best I've ever felt.
I've seen huge differences in my skin.
I think my hair has grown. I don't know. But, yeah, just things that Like, I've seen huge differences and for three weeks of consistent, of consistency with, you know, like, nearing my mom's diet.
It's something I would love to just take with me fully, you know, but it's just, it's also, it's. It's easier said than done to just like drop your. Like, it's definitely, I think, a journey which I'm gonna. I'm working towards doing. Like, I would love to fully. To be. To live like my mom, like completely transition to that. But it's a discipline I'm learning.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: And you're just traveling a lot.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Yeah, traveling so much.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: But that's, that's so, so well expressed. Teddy, do you. How do you feel?
Questions in you. Can I keep going?
[00:18:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: All right, so let's go back to the actual nuts and bolts of what you ate when you were little and what you enjoyed most. What you would tell other parents who were thinking about, you know, maybe trying or at some point, you know, integrating this. So, like, what, what to make for your kids what you loved and give them maybe some sense of inspiration.
[00:19:18] Speaker B: Well, I think what I loved the most, there are a few dishes that I love and I could like death row meals, which would be your teriyaki or maple glazed salmon is the best.
It could be like in a five star restaurant.
Definitely the maple glaze salmon with the sweet potato and like salted butter.
I love the broccoli, steamed broccoli with marinade sauce and the marinara sauce and the cheese. And then I love my mom's homemade ice cream. If you haven't tried it, if you need to make it, chocolate tahini ice cream is insane. I would choose that over any ice cream.
Summer rolls. Like you would make summer rolls? I think. Yeah.
My mom's nori rolls. Like you put like the nori seaweed cones and then avo tomato and cucumber inside with some soy sauce. Very delicious.
What else? Everything you make is really good.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: Anything like from childhoods you would remember.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: What are other things that you make me eat?
[00:20:27] Speaker A: I guess we made lots of quesadillas. Like spread green quesadillas.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: Oh, the, like the healthy pizzas.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: Right. So we take a spread of green quesadilla tortilla base and then we layer it up with marinara sauce and mozzarella goat cheese.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah, that was really good.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: Wheels and all the lunches, I guess. Yeah, the fishes all good.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: Didn't you make good soups?
Yeah, lentil soups.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Which is, I mean, you were, you.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: Were happy and jealous by that I mean, it's things that, like, I remember to this day and like, I remember them because they were so good and I crave them. I just want them eat again, stick around. Yeah.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: And then what would you say to the kids who. And also first to the parents, like, what would you actually say to them if they're nervous that they're. Children are. There's a. We have a lot of parents who get concerned that their child is going to feel, well, again, deprived or they go to the, you know, like, how. How to feel good about being a parent in this lifestyle, knowing that you're doing the right thing.
[00:21:25] Speaker B: Well, I think it's. If you think, like, it's normal to feel like, okay, will my kid resent me? But also, I think we're in a very different time than when I was raised, like, right now being healthy and like, alternative health. Alternative health because it's alternative. Because, you know, it hasn't been accepted widely by the. By society. It's not really alternative, it's just health. But alternative health is something that was definitely, I think, scrutinized and, you know, seen as very bizarre when I was growing up and my mom was like, you know, mothering me then. Now when it's more widely accepted, like, things like colonics are things that celebrities openly do and like, the benefits are not known and like, you know, alternative health things are definitely seen as in a different light than they were before.
But I think, you know, if you're a parent wanting to, you know, feed your kid a more healthy lifestyle, you need to, you know, just create a balance where they're like, they can try things and it doesn't feel like that you're, you know, denying them anything, like the right to try things. You. They can, you know, have a bite of pizza or like. I think meat is a different situation. Like, that's just a personal thing. I don't, you know, think I would feed my kid. I'm not a mother as well, so I feel like I don't want people to be, like, offended by me having opinions before I'm a mom. But I definitely.
I don't know. Meat is this different thing. But like, things with pizzas, I just think, yeah, I just feel like feeding a baby who's completely, like, pure, like, dead animal meat is something that I just find off putting. And like, I don't think they need to try that. I don't think a baby craves steak or craves, you know, a beef patty or, you know, chicken. And I think there's ways you can incorporate protein into a diet that's easier for a baby to digest. And, like, their cells are all building, and that's like a crucial time for, like, their. Their bones, their skin, like, the makeup of their bodies, all the nutrients they're absorbing during that time. And you really want to be mindful of what you're giving your baby during that time. It's like their cell. It's what their cells are gonna be made out of.
[00:23:44] Speaker A: I guess I was interested to hear how the strong perspective you had on that. I wasn't expecting that.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: And I think it's really interesting. And, you know, I' you express that because people can tiptoe around that. It's a kind of an obvious thing when you look at it.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: But formulas, like, I know also, like, people are in different life circumstances where it's like, you can't afford, you know, to give your kid. Maybe, like, the. Like, you know, produce can be expensive, but, like, you can avoid definitely giving your kid beef, pork, you know, chicken, like, things like that, you can avoid altogether. And I don't see really the benefits of them. I really only see what they do to kind of take away from the health of the baby. But, I mean, people have different opinions on that. It's just my opinion, and I. That's how I was raised. And I. You know, people who did make comments when I was younger saying, oh, you know, your kid's gonna be deficient in, like, protein and all this. Like, I don't. I'm not deficient. I'm very strong. I'm completely healthy.
So being the guinea pig, coming from me, I think it's, you know, something that does benefit the kid is to feed them, be restrictive with their diet. Definitely in the early stages, like, there's no reason for them to be eating refined sugars, starches, and meats. Like, there's literally no reason they're not craving it. They don't. They're not looking at saying, mom, why can't I have that? Like, they're a baby. They don't understand. Like, so also, like, that means when they're toddlers, they won't have those taste buds to develop. They won't have, like, their. Their palate won't be acquired to that taste. So, you know, you know, and then they can try it when they're five or six, try pizza. They like it. Okay, you can have that on weekend. You can have it for a special occasion. Like, try pizza again. But, like, at home, we can make the pizza that's also very Yummy. Tastes the same. May look a little bit different, but just it does taste as good and you know, it's a health. There's healthy alternatives to everything. And I think like I feel very, very, very lucky to have been fed and raised like the way you did, the way you raised me, because I, I feel the benefits and it's the way I will raise my kids. And I think that goes like, shows a lot is that, you know, it's, I want to do that with my kids because I, I think it's a good thing to do.
I mean.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that says it all. It's. Yeah, yeah, that pretty much does tie it up and I guess what will anything you'd say to the kids out there.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Same school?
I think just, you know, take care of your health, like, you know, try things and enjoy the joys and pleasures of food, but also be educated. I think being educated is the most like as parents, what you can, the best thing you can do is just be educated and educate your children on the effects food has on your body.
And wait, I have one more thing to say because, sorry, I don't know if I'm like going on a tangent, but I think a big.
One of the biggest things I'm grateful for that you have like handed down to me is knowledge about food. And like, so I'll, I won't. If I want a cookie, I'll eat a cookie. And it's not that when I eat the cookie I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so bad. I'm eating the cookie. But like, if I'm feeling really disgusting after like months and months of drinking beer and eating pasta and eating, you know, low quality meat and suddenly my body is having problems, I'm not going to freak out and be like, oh my gosh, why is this happening? I will freak out, but I will know why it's happened and I'll know how to then change my diet to fix it. And obviously once you get to like I recently, you know, I, I've definitely cleansed and like I wasn't looking or feeling this way. I think, you know, in February. Yeah, no, it was a bit of a wake up call that I had middle of this year. Definitely emotional reasons played into it and.
But my lifestyle was not as good as it was now.
And it was because I was drinking a lot of beer, eating so much refined sugar, like, you know, couldn't go to sleep without like having half a box of like chuckles because I do have a really bad sweet tooth and or a Full box of chuckles. Not half a box of chuckles. A full box of chuckles. And, you know, I was getting really lazy with the cooking and having like, you know, pasta with huge balls of mozzarella cheese. And then my body was really slowing down and I was like. And I freaked out. And I was like, okay, well, I have to get colonic. I have to clench on the inside and I have to like, my pathogens, like, they're definitely like parasites and pathogens. And I think I was having really bad thyroid problems. I was working out all the time, seeing no results. I was even thinking I was gaining weight from working out and like, because I think that was my thyroid acting up. And like, you know, my hormones were all off whack. But the important thing was that I knew I need to go to my mom. And I also, from the knowledge that my mom gave me, I knew what to do to heal myself again, which is what I see a lot of people my age struggle with. You know, they. They only see the quick fixes in their face and they don't see. They don't have the knowledge of their body and of the foods that they're eating to be able to fix themselves, which I feel very lucky about having. And I think that's like the, like, as a parent, like, or as anyone, educate yourself and your child on food in a healthy way where you never feel guilt for what you're eating, but you're just mindful of the effects of certain foods and also knowledgeable of what to do when you feel like you need to self correct. I think that's like a big thing.
[00:29:39] Speaker A: That is such a big thing. Because at least. At least, you know.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah, at least, you know, like, if you're stuck in a bad position, it's like, okay, I'm. I, like, not all I need to do, but what I need to do is clean my diet, clean my body from the inside out, and, you know, start from scratch again. And then, you know, also, like, obviously fluctuating is not a good thing at all. It's really bad for your body. But just knowing what to do and instead of just being, okay, I'm gonna, you know, take on this fad diet or immediately. Like, I think also things like Ozempic and things are not bad and for people that need them, like, there's definitely people that need them. But I think, you know, it's great to first try and fix your body the natural way and on your own and then use. If you. If you are actually someone that's, you know, overweight or obese. Use Ozempic as a tool.
I'm not promoting it, but I'm saying, like some people do need it and you use it as a tool to then integrate healthy life choices. So then the results can be long lasting instead of then having to relax. Because Ozempic is a lifetime drug. So then you can hopefully wean yourself off of it and then have a lifestyle that allows you to go off of Ozempic and have those results for the rest of your life. Because it's a lifestyle change, not just a bad diet. Not just like a quick fix.
Yeah, but again, I, Yeah, like it's all circumstantial and I'm not an expert, but that's just my opinion and advice.
[00:31:07] Speaker A: No, that's wonderful. That's, that's the. I think. I'm glad you touched on that. That's a big topic at the moment.
Thanks for listening. I hope that was helpful. Hopefully it answered most of your questions. Yeah. Send in more questions. If you want more, we can. We're hoping that Tundi will make a regular appearance here in Florida. So.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And yeah, if you ever have questions, this is fun. So let us know.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: That was super fun. Okay, lots of love. Till next time.
